Page Contents:
- How Big Was the Ark?
- The Global Flood
- What Did The Carnivores On The Ark Eat?
- How Did All the Animals Fit on Noah’s Ark?
- God’s Created Kinds
- Why Hasn’t Anybody Found the Ark?
- The Age of the Earth
- What Does the Bible Say?
- Why Does it Matter How Old the Earth Is?
How Big Was the Ark?
Contrary to popular belief, Noah’s Ark was not a little boat. Noah’s Ark was an enormous boat with plenty of room for all the animals..
Genesis, the first book of the Bible, gives the dimensions of the ark:
“So make yourself an ark of cypress wood; make rooms in it and coat it with pitch inside and out. This is how you are to build it: The ark is to be 450 feet long, 75 feet wide and 45 feet high. Make a roof for it and finish the ark to within 18 inches of the top. Put a door in the side of the ark and make lower, middle and upper decks.” Genesis 6:14-16
As the picture shows, the ark was almost twice as long as a 747 jumbo jet. representatives of all animals, including dinosaurs, had plenty of room to fit in the art.
(The dimensions in these verses differ slightly with the picture below. In the original Hebrew the measurements are given in cubits, and there is not one set measurement for how long a cubit is. A cubit was the length of a man’s arm from the elbow to the middle finger.)
The Global Flood
In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, on the seventeenth day of the second month-on that day all the springs of the great deep burst forth, and the floodgates of the heavens were opened. And rain fell on the earth forty days and forty nights. Genesis 7:11-12
The waters flooded the earth for a hundred and fifty days. Genesis 7:24
I’ve read Genesis many times. The only parts that some people don’t believe is the first 11 chapters. The rest is accepted as factual and historic. The first 11 chapters are only suspect because of the belief that the world is millions of years old.
However, the world is only thought to be millions of years old if you accept the fossil record as a record of millions of years of evolution. Creationist believe that the fossil record is a record of a worldwide flood.
Floods do a lot of damage. A worldwide flood would bury all the animals not on the ark. At the time of the flood, the Bible says that the fountains of the deep burst open. This means that water and mud spewed forcefully out of the ground. Creationists believe that this action is what caused the mid-Atlantic ridge and the shapes of the continents. The water whooshing back and forth with the tides for a year would create layers of sediment of different densities.
Try this, get a mayonnaise jar and fill it with teaspoons full of dirt from various places in your town till it’s almost half full. Then fill it to the top with water. Put the lid on and shake it up good and set it somewhere for a while. Gradually, the different densities of dirt will settle into layers. This is why the sides of a canyon show layers. Animals that just die will rot or be eaten. An animal needs to be covered quickly to fossilize; the minerals replacing the live bone matter. Therefore, the fossil record really is a record of a massive world wide flood.
Noah’s Ark was an enormous boat with plenty of room for all the animals.
What Did The Carnivores On The Ark Eat?
There were no carnivores on the ark. All living things were vegetarian until after the flood. After the initial creation God said this:
And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the ground– everything that has the breath of life in it– I give every green plant for food.” And it was so. Genesis 1:30
Some time after the flood God said this:
Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything. Genesis 9:3
How Did All the Animals Fit on Noah’s Ark?
You might ask: “aren’t there too many kinds of animals for them to all fit on the ark?” No, there are not too really that many kinds of animals. God created the basic types of plants and animals, and then genetic variation went on from there since the flood. For example, God made the basic types of birds including: hummingbird, woodpecker, parrot, pigeon, sparrow, duck, and so forth. Each type had a lot of capacity for genetic variability as we see in dogs so we have different types of hummingbirds, woodpeckers, parrots, and so on like we have different types of dogs. This genetic variability works within fixed limits. These animals will never turn into anything else; they will just develop into different varieties of the same thing.
God’s Created Kinds
There are a lot of different looking dogs, but they are all the same species. Also, wolves and coyotes can both mate with dogs and produce fertile offspring. They are all the “dog” kind of animal along with foxes and others of the dog “kind”.
See these pages for more information about God’s Created Kinds of animals:
- Most of what people call “evolution” is really genetics
- Using the Dog-Kind of Animal to Disprove Evolution
I have a friend who has exotic animals. One of his zebras had a fertile offspring with one of his donkeys meaning they are both the horse “kind” of animal.
Lions and tigers look different because they have isolated gene populations on different continents, but lions and tigers have mated in captivity and produced fertile offspring. They are both in the cat “kind” of animal.
Buffalo and cattle are often mated together to produce beef with less fat. These are both of the cow “kind” along with oxen.
Every animal, when it has offspring, has an offspring like it. We don’t see dogs having any type of animal except another of the dog kind.
There is no evidence that if it goes on long enough that new species can be produced. In fact, each separate type of animal cannot mate with others outside of its type of animal. Bears, cats and dogs are all in the same order, carnivore, when according to evolution means that they are related.
However, bears and dogs can not mate and produce fertile offspring. Neither can dogs and cats. One has to assume that long ago and far away it was possible for an animal to have babies that was a different type than it is, but that has never been known to happen. It is assumed to have happen because of the belief in evolution.
All Noah had to have on the ark was representatives of each of the different “kinds” as stated above. There was plenty of room for representatives of all of the animals. All the dog-type animals have developed from the two on the ark. As the animals multiplied and traveled to different parts of the world they grouped into isolated gene pools so that now we have different looking dogs all over the world. Some might call this “evolution” but, no matter how much they change they are always a dog. They never were and they never will be any other type of animal.
Why Hasn’t Anybody Found the Ark?
I’m not concerned that the ark hasn’t been found. Maybe Noah used it to build houses or for fire wood. Everything was buried under a bunch of mud. It would have been hard to go look for building materials and fire wood.
The ark would have been 4400 years old right now. Around here, there are wooden houses less than a hundred years old that are falling apart and tipping over flat. I’m not worried that a 4400 year old boat isn’t still around.
The Age of the Earth
There is a lot of evidence that the earth is young. Some indications include the fact that there aren’t enough people in the world, there is not enough salt in the ocean, the moon is getting further away every year, the oldest tree is too young and the oldest coral reef is too young. There is an excellent book that describes the evidence that the earth is not millions or billions of years old:
The Young Earth
by John D. Morris, PhD
The author, a geological engineer, describes the geological systems of the earth and shows that they have been made within thousands, not millions, of years.
What Does the Bible Say?
According to the Bible, the earth is about 6000 years old. This age is derived from the belief in the six day creation as told in the Bible. Also, it is derived from the genealogies in the Bible. The genealogies say the age of each man at the time he had his children. If somebody accepts the genealogies as literal history, as I do, then from Adam to Jesus is about 4000 years, then about another 2000 from Jesus to the present.
Why Does it Matter How Old the Earth Is?
The earth is only thousands of years old and not millions of years old, therefore, there has not been enough time for the origin of life to occur by chance. Also, there has not been enough time for the process of evolution to develop all the creatures on earth. Because the earth is young, this indicates that life on earth was created by God.
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Can you explain to me how Koalas 1st got onto the Ark and then managed to get back or to just to Australia. Also can you explain how we don’t see a trail of fossils showing this journey? After all isn’t one of the complaints about evolution is that there is no evidence for transitional fossils. Can you also explain why we only see Monotremes in Australia and New Guinea. Also why is Eucalyptus trees only native in the same area’s (They are a pest species elsewhere. A lot like Ken Ham really). So in essence why do we see only, as you would call them, certain kinds in certain areas when, according to you, had get to where they are from the same place. ie Noah’s Ark.
I did your mayonnaise jar trick and all I got was graduation not layering. Can you tell me where I went wrong? I did follow your exact instructs and I have tried multiple times.
You say that Noah’s Ark hasn’t been found but about every 2 years some expedition or another finds the Ark. How come there are so many different finds including one by Discovery Institute founder Ron Wyatt? Surely one of them must be wrong and why isn’t the Christian creation community actively speaking out about these frauds?
My point is that your vary vocal about say the Pitdown Man (which was found to be a fraud by scientists and nobody claims that it isn’t a fraud) but yet you seem very quite about the frauds that your own Creationist mates do.
In fact aren’t you guilty of participating in a fraud yourself by quote mining Darwin (see https://x-evolutionist.com/charles-darwin-described-the-problems-with-his-theory-in-his-book-origin-of-species/) ? Shouldn’t you publicly apologize on this website and make amends.
Sorry made an error. When I said “How come there are so many different finds including one by Discovery Institute founder Ron Wyatt?” what I should have said is “How come there are so many different finds including one accepted by the Discovery Institute found by Ron Wyatt?
You say that the Earth can only be thousands of years old. If that’s the case can you please explain these things.
1. The white cliffs of Dover. The White Cliffs of Dover are cliffs which form part of the British coastline facing the Strait of Dover and France. The cliffs are part of the North Downs formation. The cliff face, which reaches up to 107 metres (351 ft). Can you show me peer reviewed studies that would account for these being created in a flood?
2. Can you explain why CDK007 must be wrong in his videos about the age of the heavens? Check them out at http://www.youtube.com/user/cdk007?blend=1&ob=4#p/c/5975FF2FEECF90D3 . He shows using very simple techniques how astronomers measure how far away stars are from Earth. Using only basic trigonometry we can show stars are further away then 10,000 light years. That means that the these stars start there journey way before you say that the Earth existed. Now please explain this could be?
3. Tree ring evidence shows that that the earth is at least!!!! 11,300 years old. Since creationists at least accept tree rings as evidence can you please show me how this is wrong?
4. Radiometric dating techniques show that the Earth is a least 4.5 Billion years old. Now we aren’t talking about just Carbon dating here so can you please show how these techniques are wrong? Please sight peer reviewed journals thanks.
If the flood created the Grand Canyon as answersingenesis says here
“These geologists see a young canyon carved with a massive amount of water, likely in a matter of just days, shortly after the global flood of Noah’s day about 4,300 years ago.”
and the flood is also responsible for the sedimentary layers, as you say, then how come the Grand Canyon has sedimentary layers?
To explain to you just how bad your creation science is when it comes to Noah’s Ark a TV show called “Brainiac: Science Abuse”, which appeared to be just a way of showing flesh and having an excuse to blow things up (by near naked ladies of course), had a segment called “Will it Float or will it Sink (fruit)”. This segment had a very suggestive and attractive women test fruit to see if it sinked or floated. This compares poorly to real science but very highly compared to creation science.
Now here is a very simple experiment that may just put creation science on the same level as Brainiac. Do the same “Will it Float or will it Sink (fruit)” experiment with a variety fish, animal, sponges, clams and anything else found in fossils. Make sure you have a mixture of sea creatures and plants as well and land animals and plants.
Where a modern creature doesn’t exist, like a T Rex, substitute with a good analogy (in this case the best I can think of is a lion). Note things like weight, height, overall density etc. Have a film crew record the event and an impartial judge there as well.
Make sure that before you start you have a hypothesis. In this case it would be something along the lines of a global flood causes what we see in the fossil. So complex organisms should float more than say sponges and algae.
Along with a hypothesis you need a null hypothesis. A null hypothesis is what you should see if the experiment disagrees with you. So in this case complex organisms don’t float more than say sponges and algae.
Have fun.
You say “The first 11 chapters are only suspect because of the belief that the world is millions of years old.” I disagree. People think the 1st 11 chapters are suspect because talking snakes, giants and a wild story about some massive boat able to contain all of the kinds of animals are the stuff of fairy tales. Fairy tales aren’t true. Any 10 year old could tell you that. Maybe not a 5 1/2 year but definitely a 10 year old 😉
You say that “There were no carnivores on the ark. All living things were vegetarian until after the flood.” then you say that Genesis 1:30 says this.
I don’t see anything in that statement that says that carnivores didn’t eat meat. I only see that they were given “every green plant for food.” not that they even ate this food.
So can you please show some evidence that the carnivores did eat green plants instead of meat.
You say “The earth is only thousands of years old and not millions of years old” so far you have not proved that this is true or explain away flaws in your own logic. Like how the food is the cause of fossils. The flood is also created the canyons. The Grand Canyon has fossils. So somehow the fossils were laid down in layer in the Grand Canyon and yet was somehow carved out of this layered rock at the same time!!!!! This makes no sense.
matt – do you believe the story of jesus?? explain how any person you talk to knows this story if it was not real………
Do you know the story of Harry Potter. Explain how any person you talk to know this story if it wasn’t real…..
The fact is pollardmania that knowing a story and having it be true are to totally different things. At this point I point you to this video by nonstampcollector on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLBDFe3mDtk
enjoy 😉
Lets take a look at the mayonnaise jar experiment which is proposed here. Layers are supposed to form after different dirts are mixed. Now this would violate the 2nd law of thermodynamics according to you and your fellow creationist. So which one is correct. Your interpretation of the 2nd law or your so called experimental evidence for Noah’s flood? They can’t both be right.
PS. Do the experiment yourself and see, like I have, that layers don’t form but you do get graduation. So the real result of your experiment disproves both. Wow what an epic fail.
PSS This mayonnaise jar experiment is a good example of a self organizing system. There are a lot of them around.
Lets take those calculations “450 feet long, 75 feet wide and 45 feet high” now factor in that there is currently 6,000 species of reptiles, 9,000 birds, 1,000 amphibians, and 15,000 species of mammals and over 1,000,000 species of insects, not to mention that the ark would have to accommodate Aquatic life (over 20,000 species of that) as mixing fresh water with the salt water would kill the salt water life (And vice-versa) now “450 feet long, 75 feet wide and 45 feet high” doesn’t seem that much does it?
“However, the world is only thought to be millions of years old if you accept the fossil record as a record of millions of years of evolution.”
Nobody except creationists says that. There are multiple lines of evidence for an earth which is billions of years old. Tree ring evidence, radiometric dating, light from distant stars – all mentioned already in the comments. Why do you persist in making claims which are demonstrably untrue?
The shape of the continents shows that they were once joined together. Africa to South America is the most obvious one. Similar fossils can be found in the areas which were once joined, but now are far apart. The age of the ocean floor at various points shows how the continental plates push the continents apart as new sea floor is generated, and at what rate this process occurs.
Matt (and anybody else this applies to) … do me a big favor, read ALL of those books (even though you dont believe them) … TRY to have an open (not closed) mind … THEN come back and I might bother to actually pay attention to what you have to say.
-Cathy
Dear Matt, Joel, and Nick: You’re all awesome. Carry on.
Excellent article! Hey Matt – get a life. By the way, some philosophers and scientists, like philosopher and theologian William Lane Craig and Scientist/Mathematician John Lennox (England) believe that evolution can be true or not true – either way it is compatible with theism.
Interesting article…
“Noah’s Ark was an enormous boat with plenty of room for all the animals.. ”
The most conservative estimate I have found is 16,000 animals (from Answers in Genesis), which assumes some kind of super accelerated evolution to get to the millions of species we see evidence of today. I find it amusing that while many creationists object to evolution because we do not see new species appearing, other creations would have as believe dozens of new species have been appearing every year.
You might also like to think about what these animals eat. Half a ton of food a year seems a reasonable estimate (a sheep will eat 7 to 10 pounds a day), so Noah had to load up 8000 tons of food for the journey. You got room in the ark for that?
There were 8 people to muck out 16,000 animals. Wow, God knew how to punish people!
“Gradually, the different densities of dirt will settle into layers. This is why the sides of a canyon show layers. Animals that just die will rot or be eaten. An animal needs to be covered quickly to fossilize; the minerals replacing the live bone matter. Therefore, the fossil record really is a record of a massive world wide flood.”
So you believe that fossils are sorted in the geological layer by density of the carcass? How is it, then, that fish are found in so many layers? What about trees? Insects? The fact is that the geological layer is not sorted by density. Heavier rocks are frequently above light rocks.
And I still await the creation science paper that lists the density of anmal corpses. It will never happen, because the creationist “scientists” know that there is no such pattern.
Have you ever wondered how radioisotopes are sorted? Somehow during the flood argon-40 got trappened in rocks with potassium-40, and it all got sorted so rocks with more argon (which is a gas) settled at the bottom. Odd that. Look up radiometric dating if you are interested in what actually happened.
“There were no carnivores on the ark. All living things were vegetarian until after the flood.”
Are you sure you have that straight? You believe that T. Rex evolved from a plant-eater to a meater eater in just a few generations before disappearing completely? The usual story is that carnivores appeared after the fall, not the flood. Genesis 4:4 makes it clear Abel was tending sheep for the meat way before the flood.
“… the oldest tree is too young and the oldest coral reef is too young.”
What does that even mean? How old should they be?
just want to point out both science and religion can be right. earth was created in 6 days right? exactly how long is one day to god? don’t assume that one day to god is the same as one day to us. one day to god could be millions of years.